Hello all!
Wow! I never thought there would be so much info after the question!
I'm a bit overloaded with all the answers I got...
First thing I understand is I better get the ET book to be able to
apply some of your suggestions...
Thanks for the marketing info, for the principles you use and the
insights.
As read read your message Silvia, it promted some new questions. I'll
be as specific as possible.
I like to design new trainings and find out what is possible and I
get bored doing the same training over and over again. I notice that
most people don't operate like that and would like similar trainings
(or it's just my beliefs) and more down to earth trainings.
Now, you seem to create a lot of new patterns and trainings and seem
to make a living out of it. How do you get the people interested in
new things? How do you just do what you love to do without worrying
about the money?
You seem to do precisely the kinds of things I like to do, so I
figured you are a good model.
Also, to everybody (this is the skeptic in me talking). You said that
what you do is structural work and when it's done, the money will
follow suit... Is that your experience? Since using ET and doing
structural work, does money follow suit for you?
Just curious and wanting to learn...
Be well!
Alexander
--- In emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com, "StarFields" <starfields_at_b...>
wrote:
>
> >
> > Silvia,
> >
> > Good, clear thinking...thanks!
>
> LOL - oh but I try, I try ... :-)
>
> > What I've been considering is that it's useful, if you
> > want to have
> > money, it's useful to give, first. To provide value
> > through service,
> > things...whatever. Then, in exchange, we get paid with
> > money. Which
> > leads me to wonder what it is that I might provide that
> > others really
> > want.
>
>
> Ah there's so many things I'm kinda thinking in return here.
>
> One of these is the question of what people want money for in the
> first place. That's the very first stumbling block, and I have a
> strong feeling here that money serves as an anti-anxiety thing
> like my earlier examples of "hoovering a bedroom as a response to
> worrying about behaviour problems in children".
>
> Money can be very easily linked into this anti-anxiety behaviour
> in all sorts of inventive ways and when it is, the
> cause-and-effect between "doing all these things" notably to make
> money but really probably totally useless in the context will be
> the end of any hope of any kind of Even Flow on the topic.
>
> I consider the money flow as an example of general energy
> management - with relationships, for example. Chances are, the
> idea to "give first and receive as a result" goes further than
> just the money but is applied in other arenas as well.
>
> It kinda sounds neat, seems fairly reasonable and nice and all
> that but energy doesn't actually work like that. By pushing out an
> energy you don't necessarily get anything at all in return and in
> the digestive system, you definitely have to eat first before you
> can "give" anything out.
>
> I also think that there is a lot more leverage over just how each
> one of us gets to have their moneys than we currently give
> ourselves credit for.
>
> For example, if in someone's world money is earned by hard work,
> so it is. For someone else money turns up if they give service
> first - and as I will so mote it be. For some, money comes in
> inexplicable ways with no noticeable cause and effect - and once
> again, there we are.
>
> And all variations thereof. One particularly painful one (apart
> from the hard work one) is that in order to get any money you have
> to prostitute your integrity. It is amazing to observe that the
> only people who have to, are the ones who believe this.
>
> The problem with all of it is that money is NOT in and of itself a
> motivator or a goal or anything at all, which confounds the issue
> entirely and which is why I suggested we go to thinking of it as
> an energy, to consider money exchanges with the environment as
> energy exchanges and make equivalencies to other subject areas
> where the same dynamics are applied.
>
> Then you end up with an underlying principle that governs *all* or
> most energy exchanges as well as what folk are hoping to gain from
> these things.
>
> Mostly, you find something bizarre, unhealthy or unholy at the
> bottom of it all which confounds the whole thing even further,
> such as the "and then I'll finally be loved and I know I really
> exist" driver at the end of a long convoluted chain of money -
> relationship - creativity - activity - etc. behaviours.
>
> As one could tie oneself in knots for eternity over such things,
> (and people have, indeed!) I propose to not even bother with
> belief changes and such. They tend to follow sweetly and quickly
> without any hassle when some thing or other in the energy body has
> been sorted out (see the ET enlightenment seconds).
>
> Money is a lot less important than we all think it is right now.
> We're doing some things here which are far more structural, far
> more from the ground up and sound and the money thing will follow
> suit as a result. In the meantime, I think it will really help to
> whenever money turns up to think of it as only an energy, both in
> the giving and the taking and then forget about it.
>
> I made a "wealth" cleaning system some time back which I think
> will eventually be available when the crew get their act together.
> It's a global energy field cleaner on the topic to just get the
> main disturbances out of the way. With hindsight, that helped
> quite a bit because after that I started just writing about what I
> wanted to rather than keep looking over my shoulder as what that
> might do to sales - LOL.
>
> Which directly produced the whole thought flow thing, the totality
> concepts and heart healing, the entire new hypnodreams album as a
> result. All things I am totally into and which are important to
> me.
>
> Personally, I've since put all my personal abundance theories on
> hold, blown up my old goals and currently I'm just coasting along,
> enjoying myself and finding out new things about myself and my
> world.
>
>
> > Wondering what others might strongly want, something I
> > can help with -
> > and thinking of that FIRST, seems useful to earn money.
> > Much more so
> > than worrying about how I can make it or get money to
> > come to me. That's
> > one application of focusing on outflow, first.
> >
> >
> > Am I mixing apples and oranges? Do you see any
> > opportunity for more
> > clear thinking, here?
>
>
> <g> If you have faith in your principle, it will produce. Simple
> as that. There seems to be a general principle that it is easier
> to focus anywhere else but on the thing in question to get any
> kind of result, as though the very act of paying attention to it
> will make it skittle off like a deer in the forest!
>
> You are focussing on the outflow and that works for you. Some
> people focus on the result beyond money and that works for them -
> one of my kids does that, he doesn't worry about the money but
> focuses on the bike he wants and the money arranges itself
> automatically somehow.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised at all if we all turned out to be the
> total architects of our own respective matrices in that sense and
> get to choose how we want to do things in the future.
>
> For now, I really like the thought of, It's only an energy ...
>
> Very soothing :-)
>
> SF
>
>
>
>
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