Is it true?

The following comes from the book "Losing The Moon", pages 19 - 21.
This is from a conversation with Katie.

The friend says "Katie, I awoke this morning in a space where there
just seemed to be awareness, and then identification set in and soon
as that happened, intense fear arose.  So, as we've been sitting
here, I have been doing The Work with this fear.  And the first thing
I asked was "What am I afraid of?"  And I could not get an answer. 
There is just this fear.  And then I asked "what do I get for holding
the belief in this fear?"  What I get is a "me".  Okay, so the fear
gives me a "me".  Then I asked, "Can I know that it is true?"  And
that is where the dropping into the heart won't happen.  It just sits
here.  Intellectually, I can see it; I have a host of teachings,
yours included, running through me, but it is just stuck.

Katie: I'm hearing the question.  You are labeling it as fear, saying
that it is fear.  Can you really know that it is fear?

Friend: No, as soon as you said it , it was clear.

Katie:  so there it is.  It's done.  That was the first one and you
skipped over it.  You went to the decendant.  A little reincarnation
there!  You are skipping a generation.  It's fear, Ach!  Labeling it
fear without invetigation is how it has all these lives.  And that is
where psychology is born, in trying to find out what the fear is. 
Well, it is nothing!  Let's just investigate it in the beginning.  Go
back to the beginning.  And then there is no need for psychology!

Friend:  So, when you said about fear, "can you know that it is
true?"  It went really fast, could we go through that again?

Katie:  Okay.  It is fear.  Is it true?  Can you really know that it
is fear?

Friend:  What came up was "It's a sensation."

Katie:  Yes, and you label it an enemy.  You label it "Not natural." 
It's a sensation, Is it true?  Can you really know that?

Friend:  The strongest thing that comes up is "I don't know."

Katie:  That's my position.  In that palce you are back in the
twilight you were describing -- before the label of sensation and
then laebeling it fear and on and on and on.
This is a game.  It is fun!  This is not serious.  You are doing one
of two things all the time; you re attaching to apparent creation,
what arises, or you are un-attaching!  And the investigation is the
un-attaching.  You can not attach to what is not true.  And that has
been the apparent life's goal -- to make something real!  It is a
full-time job!  We do not go to sleep at night, we pass out!  It's
like living in an arena, trying to win all the time inside of
yourself to make it real.  And, at the same time, being unconscious
of it.  Just knowing that it is very hopeless and stressful.
............ That is what has happended to you, making something out
of nothing.  Without investigation it has to go on like the creator
because it is mirror image.  That's it's nature, but to investigate
is to put yourself back into a clear position of "I am that".  I AM
that sensation.  And it can't be told.  But the investigation puts
you into the experience of all those words.  And that is not even
true.  I am prior to "I".  But what fun to come back to one's own
self. ......... You don't wake up forever.  It's now, now, now!
To wake up (whatever that is)forever, implies time.  To wake up is
just a past history apparently arising.  It's old.  It is to keep you
from the experience of NOW!  Woman sitting in chair.  Without a story-
--Heaven!  The stories still go on but without attachment to the
story.  And that is what the inquiry leaves us with.  The freedom of
non-attachment.  Internal.  Detachment from the movie.  And the
movies are all good when they have been met with some understanding.

Byron Katie asks her questions from a place of unconditional love; not as
therapy ;-> Tim
I love her line - you don't fall asleep at night - you pass out!

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