Re: [ET2] the "talking cure"

Liz Moseley wrote:
> Hello Silvia and all,
>
> There is something I would just like to check out here. I'm sure we're all
> aware of situations in which people talk and talk and talk about a problem,
> with the final result that they become quite expressive and eloquent about
> their problem, but they don't ever really seem to get beyond it. In other
> words, "talking it out" doesn't really solve, resolve, or dissolve anything.
> On the other hand, there are situations in which people DO seem to "talk it
> out" and feel much better afterwards and even see the whole thing very
> differently at the end of it all.
>
> I was thinking about this phenomenon because several times now, people have
> commented to me that they felt so much better about talking over their
> troubles AFTER having gone through an ET session first. This seems to
> indicate that "talking it out" after the channel has been cleared is most
> liberating and productive indeed, while "talking it out" while the blockage
> remains firmly in place is simply stirring the bubbling emotional stew round
> and around.
>
> This brings up some interesting questions. Is it possible that sometimes
> people who know nothing about ET can have a kind of spontaneous clearing of
> the channel, without going through the actual ET technique, and then if they
> "talk it out" right away, they feel great and things click into place for
> them? And then there are people who go through years of therapy but never
> seem to feel like their life has changed for the better, and it's not
> because they are unmotivated or the therapist is a crackpot, but they simply
> have a blockage in the energy system. Right?
>
> What do you think?
>
> ???
>
> Liz
>

I think you're right.

I think that talking has a great many layers to it, and that if you get
someone who can talk on the multi-level (like Milton Erickson was
accused of doing!) that they can snake charm the kundalini in a person's
energy system for the want of a better metaphor - LOL!

Further I would put this to open discussion - I bet a lot of the
trancers have already engaged in the "talking cure" here.

Some random person: "I have a huge burden of guilt ..."

Trancer: "Aaah yes ... I remember how good it feels when it begins to
flow ... AWAY ... NOW ... "

When you then switch on the video and play that sequence back, you see
the random person gesturing to their shoulders and head, and the trancer
as they reply doing the undoing gestures in time to their words AND ENERGY.

Just before I got side tracked into EFT in 1998, I was re-modeling
Virginia Satir for her usage of energy, because just by analysing her
"words" and string them together, you do NOT get the "Satir" effect.

Nor do you get the Erickson effect by simply growling like a mad dog!

Virginia, "the world's greatest family therapist" or you could say, the
world's most successful complex energetic relationships doctor (!), was
"speaking" in a certain way, but that was the tip of the iceberg of an
integrated activity that involved CONSTANT physical movement of people's
ereas, blockages, ties, injuries and then some - at the baseline and the
center of the activity.

The problem with the talking cures has happened because there are SOME
people who can work with energy in the first place, and they get very
good at it and get results, and then a bunch of muppets come along with
a TAPE RECORDER and WRITE DOWN the words they say - which isn't the
whole story.

Then they went off and taught the "words" minus the underlying energy to
a whole heap of other people and of course it doesn't work anymore!

I would say that ANYONE who does Emotrance for a while with other people
in a therapy setting, will begin to be able to, for example, ASK
QUESTIONS IN SUCH A WAY that when the person answers, their troubles
really DO pour out and a cleansing takes place in the process.

But I guess I could write ANOTHER three books about this if I wasn't
careful.

At the baseline what you've observed there is completely correct. What
we have to do is to match the energy to the words we say and the
movements we make to the state we're in and the one we're after -
congruency, or the human totality ACTING IN ACCORD and all together.

When that happens, therapy works - and so many other things besides.

SFX

Silvia Hartmann
http://SilviaHartmann.com

           
Received on Mon Dec 05 2005 - 16:25:01 GMT