Re: [ET2] Skills Transmission...

Hi all!

In his meditation book B.K.Frantzis says that "mind to mind transmission" forms the core of all the traditional teachings about consciousness.This is used in Taoism,buddhism yoga,Sufism,shamanism and tantra. Such transmission is a form of telepathy where one mentally transmits the totality of a learning experience.
So you can say that the technique has been around for a while.
On the topic of manifestation it is said that this level can be very dangerous, and extremely deep soul searching is required because it is here that the subtle but powerful frailties of the human ego tends to emerge from our innermost selves.
Here it is the desire for power that you have to go past.If you see yourself as an all-powerfull creator it will lead to spiritual egomania.
So I think that it`s very wise of Silvia to go at a slow pace here.

Tom

----- Original Message -----
  From: StarFields
  To: emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:38 PM
  Subject: RE: [ET2] Skills Transmission...

> Hello Silvia!
>
> BTW, tell me if I'm too curious.

  Very motivated. That is a good thing.

>
> In a response you wrote that what he does (RB) is rudimentary
> compared to something else that is simpler.
>
> First, what does he do. I mean, ok he's doing energy
> manipulation,
> but what type. He's not just spinning chakras or
> fluffing chakras (I
> experienced those and it's reaalll different).##

  Ok. Look. Think of the entire human energy system as an
  information processing and storage device of an order that would
  make all your bits spin like helicopter blades. Only faster.

  It is n-complex and multiordinate in nature, and it is designed to
  interact with *everything* in a give-and-take flow situation.

  Now, let's say you wanted to change this supercomputer.

  You would of course use the requisite mirror systems in your own
  structure to accomplish that. For this to occur, you'd have to
  link up your system with theirs.

  Now, this clearly cannot be done with a consciousness that is
  limited to 7+-2 bits of attention.

  You need to use different processing systems within yourself to do
  that. Which need to be online. Which need to have contact with
  your conscious awareness or else you'd be doing
  god-alone-knows-what.

  See what I mean about NOT doing this until you have at least SOME
  working systems of your own online?

>
> And if it's rudimentary, it means there's something
> better and to
> tell that means "to me" that you experienced it. Can
> you describe
> your experience of this something better?

  Right. In brief, constructs and their trapped and disabled
  consciousness bits plus all they've been up to, by themselves and
  all of them forwards and backwards thru time as we know it, have
  caused SERIOUS DISTURBANCES and entirely needless fuck ups in what
  is a natural, organic, beautifully complex and infinitely subtle
  system.

  And although construct-driven magicians can absolutely interefere
  with these systems, and indeed create change, and most noticeably
  so, the change they create is really more of yet another
  disturbance than a resolution of any kind.

  Which is why I am delaying me (us?) and keep me away from the
  temptation of doing this now, which can only be yet another big
  time fuckup - how could it be anything else? There is NO way I
  could construct a symbol in clarity and flow at this point, it
  would be a distorted mess and no matter how good my attentions
  might be.

  One of the reasons I called RBs systems "rudimentary" is because
  he is working AROUND some very serious structural problems, best
  he can, which, if they were resolved FIRST, would make matters
  very much easier, faster, speedier, nicer, more ecological and all
  the rest of the improvements.

  One of the reasons that RB isn't generally acknowledged by the
  entire human race as the saviour and the prophet is that his
  system doesn't feel altogether right - its slightly off in some
  way. People then try and find some reason to explain this strange
  sense of "not quite comfortable" to make sense of it, like
  questioning his morals or disliking him for whatever reason, but
  the flaw lies in the system.

  I am a HUGE believer in people's instincts, underlying recognition
  of things that are as they should be. All those years - millennia
  upon millennia! - hasn't driven it out of us. It's difficult to
  explain in words but I've had experiences of things that were
  simply right, and its extraordinary how people really just accept
  them when they are. There is virtually no resistance to it. This
  principle of "no resistance" is something I try to adher to and my
  newer things, try-out techniques are gathering less and less
  resistance from a wider and wider range of people who they are
  being presented to.

  Reason that they are not being resisted is because they fit - they
  fit logic, they fit someone's life experiences, their
  observations, their very own evidence, and more than that, they
  fit historical patterns, old, overarching patterns and so forth.

  When I have something like that, I know I've struck gold and I
  have something *real* on my hands at last, so that non-resistance
  response becomes a guidance mechanism.

  I'm not saying here that I have managed to make a self help
  technique out of these things yet but its work in progress.

  So and to come back to the question, yes there is something
  better.

  There is a kind of "thing" that people will innately accept, no
  matter whether they are semi-autistic computer programmers with a
  Harvard degree or the lowliest alcohol riddled street person, a
  holistic healer or a farmer from Peru.

  That represents a class of human experiences we don't yet have at
  all, but of which Bandler's attempts at teaching and changing
  people are a *rudimentary* and *experimental* version that is very
  much a guiding light and a call to action for us all - look, this
  is what I can do with my limitations, there is more out there, a
  whole lot more.

  I don't mean the term rudimentary in the slightest little bit
  derogative because to have made this rudimentary first effort is -
  absolutely mindblowing, something worthy of the party of all
  parties, all of us bringing out the champagne and carrying the guy
  on our shoulders and showering his construct with gratitude for
  the rest of his life.

  Yet at the same time as I celebrate his achievement I KNOW its
  only 5% or less of what there WILL be. And that is very exciting,
  indeed. My motivation to do what I'm doing.

>
> I ask because in your e-books, you often make reference
> to High Magic
> or something like it's really powerful, but no details
> (I think). It
> helps me buy more stuff, now I'm curious, do you think
> you will ever
> release what you seem to know about High Magic (or
> advanced energy
> manipulations) in the furture or it's something you
> believe people
> should discover by themselves? (or I'm off track with all that).

  Actually, I'm pleased to be answering these questions on record.
  Gives me a chance to clear up a thing or two.

  Indeed, there are a few sad individuals in High Magic across the
  times of humanity who have held back key power insights because
  they wanted to keep it all to themselves.

  But mostly, and this is certainly the case for me, the reason I'm
  not publicising some of my "High Magic" material is because it
  would simply be a very, very bad thing for all concerned if folk
  started to do this who have NOT got their own energy systems in
  order.

  Bandler, Crowley and I, at least, BURNED OURSELVES nearly to death
  with this stuff and learned our lessons the hard way; we might be
  a bunch of bastards but still what we went through we wouldn't
  want to inflict on our own worst enemies.

  It really is as simple as that.

  We did it the wrong way and we know better now.

  I, personally, then set out to construct backwards a more
  ecological pathway and to put in position what you would have
  needed to weather the whole deal without blowing yourselves to
  pieces. (I think all the others did too, and all across the ages,
  at that, best they knew how to).

  Oceans is called, The Patterns of EmoTrance, Vol. 1. This
  presupposes the existence of at least Vol. 2, which is coming into
  existence even as we speak :-) - it's called, Fields of Stars and
  will deal with the wider energy body and get into interactivity
  there - and that of course includes reality creation 101.

  I keep saying it and saying it and no-one seems to be listening:
  You go into the causal planes, raise your consciousness like a
  glistening brightwhite sword and the hand that holds it is that of
  a ragingly angry, terrified, overwhelmed, powerhungry, unloved,
  avenging, hatefilled, tortured, injured, splintered and basically
  totally *insane* construct - and what are you doing but spewing
  yet more bile all over creation?

  Does it need any more of that?

  I think not.

  And of course, what happens to the magician?

  Need I say? Go look and just know!

  Not practical, not logical and most of all, not necessary.

  So yes, I work on patterns of High Magic.

  Yes, I can't bloody wait to use them again AND share them with
  others, because there are some patterns you need groups for and
  you cannot do them by yourself!

  And no, I'm not going to touch them with a bargepole until and
  unless I am satisfied in all ways that I'm safe with them, this
  time around.

  And I guarantee you that your so-called "self destructive" parts
  are having a party as they're hearing me say this because they
  bloody well knew this all along - LOL!

> Anyway, really curious and more and more. I guess
> that's what happens
> with vague hypnotic descriptions of wonderful magical
> stuff that we
> can do and... :)
>
> Magickman

  I can assure you this slow unfoldment is not and never has been a
  sales technique but more of a common sense survival approach.

  I can further assure you that this is not an elitist situation and
  if you muscle test, please ask yourself if you're ready for High
  Magic yet. If you know what I mean.

  People-constructs are fucking desperate and they are desperate for
  short cuts, will do *anything* to get out of the nightmare of
  never ending meaninglessness, lovelessness, purposelessness - even
  if the price is so high, you could even call it selling your soul
  to the devil.

  It's a sad thing, indeed.

  Let's see if we can do better than this, each one for themselves,
  a step at a time, gently and easily, as it is supposed to be,
  yeah?

  multi-frequency waves

  SF

  ===============================

        Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
              ADVERTISEMENT
             
       
       

  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
  emotrance2-unsubscribe_at_yahoogroups.com

  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

           
Received on Tue Jun 10 2003 - 11:15:36 BST