Re: [ET2] Game Rules On ET2 (and PS)

At 07:51 AM 5/29/2003 +0100, you wrote:

> > If you are not comfortable with them get out of your
> > head and emotions and
> > do the damn drills and you'll realize I was talking
> > about myself not YOU.
>
>Houston,
>
>I've suspected this before but here it is - you're not on THAT
>list.
>
>Easy on.
>
>Different list, different owner, different UNIVERSE.

My bad Silvia, I thought I was on Emotrance Discussion list that is
describes this way at the sign up page.
Open discussion forum for practitioners of Silvia Hartmann's EmoTrance &;
other interested parties. Exchange information and ideas about using ET for
Energy Healing, Personal Development, and a whole lot more.

>If you wanted to, you could think of it as a girlie list. If that
>would help. Or a V8 think tank, if that would.
>
>Let me explain what we do here.

Silvia, the information below and that this is a Think Tank should be on
your opening sign up page or else someone else will feel they are on THAT
list. (The one you describe on your sign up page) Not about using ET for
Energy Healing and Personal Development or even exchange information and
ideas about - which presupposes actual using of the techniques not just
talking.

>There is a problem of some kind that belongs to someone, or an
>insight, idea, gift, theory etc.
>
>The person in question brings this item into the room and puts in
>the middle of the room, for all to see.
>
>They will say, "Look at that, everyone. What do you think?"
>
>Then everyone else, or those who are interested, will come closer
>and prod the thing, take a look, pick it up and shake it, make a
>comment about it.
>
>This is known as "brain storming" - at this point, most people
>will just say something that comes to mind.
>
>What is said at this point may or may not be relevant, but it is
>NOT designed to:
>
>- be the last word on the topic;
>- show everyone how clever you are;
>- proove to everyone how much you know;
>- close off any topics of investigation;
>- beat another over the head to shut them up;
>- embarrass or shame anyone else's comments;

and yet my response that you are responding to with this list of game rules
was a response to someone who was trying to embarrass and shame my comments
I was just using their words to hopefully pay attention to what they were
saying. (Why did you not point that out to the other human. I guess it's
like a sports game, the person who gets called for the foul is usually the
person that who foul before the referee became aware of possible infractions)

>- sell anything to anyone;
>- convince anyone of anything.

(A note here: All communication of any kind, to some degree, is an attempt
to convince, persuade, sell or get someone (could be yourself) to agree,
acknowledge or validate your position or your communication.) In fact this
list of game rules is an attempt to sell and convince me of their validity.

>It *is* designed to:
>
>- pool the resources of *everyone* who is participating;
>- spark ideas, thoughts, connections, memories etc. in *everyone*
>who is participating;
>- gain different insights that could NOT be had by staying in
>one's own lonesome mind;
>- encourage *all* members to contribute and to support their
>contributions;
>- develop NEW ideas, synergies, avenues of approach, questions,
>and solutions.

These sound like good ideals in principle which reminds me of one of my
realizations. If I want to find out/learn about myself I look at others.
If I want to learn about others I look at myself. (Doesn't sound logical
and yet it is enlightening)

>snip

>Aggression of any kind directed at another group member is
>non-sensical in this set up as the focus is on the problem or item
>under exploration.

I hear your writing and I shared, because of your encouragements a very
personal experience and how "I" dealt with it and yet you allowed one
member to respond with much aggression toward me (jumping to many false
conclusions) and you didn't bring this to their attention and when I
respond (not react) you feel moved to explain this list is not what it says
in it's sign-up.

>These are the game rules on ET2 and also on Project Sanctuary,
>which are my two groups, both expressively Think Tank groups for
>me to *participate in* as a group member because I cannot place
>too great a value on the personal gain I have from this
>participation - it sparks me and lifts me in all ways, enriches my
>work and research immeasurably and is exciting and satisfying as a
>process.

I agree I receive great value and personal gain from participation on this
and other list.

>These are different from MMES, Mindlist and such and I thought it
>would be helpful for all concerned if I stated this clearly.

It sure has been helpful for me because I went and read the descriptions of
all the groups I'm a member of and now after reading this, (not the
descriptions) there is a deference.

>Hopefully, it will encourage people to participate who have felt
>they were too new or weren't quite sure; you can participate in
>this process by simply mailing in a thought to someone else's
>topic or bringing your own item for the rest of us to look at.

Yes please everyone contribute and if I respond and whether you agree or
not please understand, "Whatever I'm suggesting is NOT the only way, it may
not even be the BEST way, it is just another way. A way that has and
continues to work for me." Also because Silvia stated in another email to
keep using the Energy, Emotrance, Thought-Flow metaphor my intention is to
bring everything back to that particular metaphor.

Need Nothing, Desire Everything, Choose What Shows Up,
Enjoy Life-It's ALL Information, Utilize It ALL,
Doc Houston

"My Grandma Vetter says my Grampa is the perfect liberal because he
believes that the same teacher who can't teach 4th graders how to read is
somehow qualified to teach those same children about sex."

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Received on Thu May 29 2003 - 17:19:09 BST