Re: [ET2] Easy?

--- In emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com, "Dod" <mandod_at_d...> wrote:
> Hello Burton,
>
>
> When you said:
>
> " .you've got a babblebox in your head - chattering away 24/7."
>
> I laughed out loud. For sure, I have. It's like a monkey on my
shoulder.
> All I want from life - well, I'm not in actual need of anything in
the
> food, shelter, companionship line - is to be able to shut down my
> thoughts, on demand, for varying periods of time; but I'm beginning
to
> suspect one reason I can't do this is because I'm petrified they
might
> never start up again.
>
This fear doesn't make sense to me, so I don't know what to say. Do
you REALLY believe you'll stop thinking verbally and it will never
start again? Or is it something else? Perhaps you believe the
bsabblebox is you? I wouldn't have even have thought of this as a
possibility, so I'm curious!

I've heard of various drills for turning the babblebox off, and need
to do more of them. Vipassana mediation. Mole whacking meditation
(when it pops up, slam it down again). Relaxing your tongue helps,
as does using your peripheral vision. Hakalau is a mental state that
I think does it, but I don't know enough to say (never experienced
it).

But you seem to be assuming that the key is turning the babblebox
off. I don't think so. IMO, the key is more moving the babblebox to
the back of your mind - like it's background noise. Then other
things can be at the forefront. You can tune out background noise,
yes?

One thing I noticed recently is that since I've been doing self-
hypnosis, I've actually had moments when I had to go looking for
verbal thoughts. It seems to me that thoughts bubble up from the
subconscious - it's always presenting you with things to think
about. When the subconscious starts to take over, as in hypnosis,
perhaps it's shutting down presenting thoughts to the conscious mind.

I'm really not sure about the above - I'm new at this. But it's SO
INTERESTING!

> This disassociation/association thing isn't entirely news to me. I
> actively seek out circumstances that force me to associate. But I'd
like
> to associate while washing up, too. The trouble is, most of life is
made
> up of activities, like washing up, that are just perfect for
> disassociating from because they can be done automatically while
> thinking of something completely different.
>
> I do feel things, though. Last night, for example, I spent some
torrid,
> sleepless hours worrying (again) about my daughter.
>
> Actually, I say I 'do' feel things; but the first time I really felt
> that weight was when it left me.
>
Glad your daughter is OK.

I'm sure you feel things, but how aware are you of what you're
feeling?

I'm not sure if this is a valid test of dissociation. But I'll bet
that you can barely (if at all) re-experience those worry emotions
you had, no matter how hard you try.

I had a nasty, disempowering childhood myself. I have used EFT on
it, but am not yet able to reexperience the emotions to get at some
core events I'd like to fix. So though I'm learning to associate
now, I'm not sure how to associate the past like I want to.

> Doesn't everyone think way too much? I mean, who can wash the
dishes,
> and not be thinking about something else?
>

Good question. That would be tough for me. Another good question
is "how can you live life at will, instead of just observing it?"
I'm still working on this one.

Anyway, I mentioned some possible ways to associate - I'd like to
hear about anyone's success, strategies, experiences. I'm still
learning - and associating is REALLY improving my ability to get
results.

BTW, if it matters, I'm a OVERLY "left brained" person. EFT sounded
absolutely flakey to me, as did Energy Medicine a la Donna Eden and
Reiki. But I was able to put aside the babblebox and my bad
skeptical attitude, try them and get them to work.

If -I- can get out of my own way, I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT. Let me know
what happens!

Burton

           
Received on Tue Feb 11 2003 - 13:08:23 GMT