Re: Overcoming Dissociation

> I've also got some specific drills for other approaches of
bypassing
> dissociation, but I'm asking for the author's permission before
> sharing them here. It's from an awesome NLP trainer who couldn't
> apply NLP and hypnosis to himself, until he learned to associate.
>
> Burton
>

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As promised, here's the reprint of the drill for overcoming
dissociation from Dr. John La Tourrette. He posted it on his own
list, post #1975:
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> "easy" it is to help someone else, while it is
> "hard" to experience myself the things I can have someone else
experience!

Sure. I suffer from the same DISSOCIATION myself, and it took me
years
to "learn" that was me doing all the drills in hypnosis dissociated,
so they didn't work for me...I was doing all the drills in NLP
dissociated, so they didn't work for me...on and on.

Then I consciously learned how to associate, bam!...now all the
drills
worked.

It wasn't the drill's fault, it was my lact of calibrating my own
state that cause me my problems back then....probably one of the
reasons I'm such a good trainer now. I've made every mistake in the
book. (and I still make a bunch daily. Do NOT model me in the
kitchen.)

> In other words: what the fuck can be wrong with me?
> Any hint WILL be appreciated!

Sure, you are a dissociated psychopath and would make a great "hit
man". LOL. You just missed your true calling.

Just kidding.

I learned to associate by anchoring. I'd sit in a restaurant and
smell
the smells, and while focusing on those smells, I'd anchor them. Then
I'd walk outside and trigger the anchor. And I kept on doing that
drill until it worked. It took awhile.

Then I did it with external vision...then with internal vision...then
with external auditory...then with internal auditory...then with
viscerals... with propioceptives...with different emotions...and I
kept doing the damn drills with myself until they worked. And it did
take a while. A couple of years in fact...because I was a dissociated
psychopatic with Skiz tendencies.

And those emotion drills...the only ones I could access back in the
early 80's was "anger", and "kill the mother fucker!"

Love, joy, humor, etc, I was totally dissociated from. Remember, it
took me a couple of years.

It was real funny how Steve Andreas and Connierae kept sending
trainers to me (and I was supposed to be to stupid to notice) to
reverse my pananoia...so I got a bunch of free lunches out of the
deal.

Hell, Time Line did NOT work for me either, and that is a dissociated
process. But since I was already dissociated I could not calibrate
any
differences...and the things they kept going back to fix, ie, fear,
trauma, rejection...those things did not exist for me because I was
in
that detached state going through life.

So I didn't use to believe in time lines either.

Again, it was MY lack of calibration skills, and NOT the lack of a
proper drills. I do wonder why no trainer ever pointed THAT out to me.

Then again, maybe they did (probably true) and I just rejected the
data because it did not match my internal idenity and values...then.

I also drank much 151 Bacarde, and a few other brands of like
flamability.

So, enjoy the process.

> Thanks again Doc!

You are welcome.
Doc

           
Received on Thu Feb 13 2003 - 06:25:47 GMT