Re: [ET2] NLP and Emotrance

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Subject: [ET2] NLP and Emotrance

Hi everyone,
As Emotrance followed work in NLP etc, I was hoping that someone could
help me. I have been a big fan of Emotrance for some time now, even
though I feel I don't do it very well. I have just been on a course
to help cure a medical condition which uses a lot of NLP. I am
thoroughly confused now though because the course ignores the physical
sensations and endeavours to get one to change state to a positive
one, by using either memories of old or pretend future states. I just
can't reconcile the two now, as emotrance is surely about being in the
moment, and being in the body. I really hope someone can help me see
if I have confused something, as I am about to reject the course but
really want its benefits!

Thanks in anticipation,
Carol

Hi Carol.

I would suggest to separate out the two approaches for now.

I am well versed in NLP and certainly took may NLP related occurrences into
consideration when I designed EmoTrance.

You could say that the kinaesthetic aspects of the representational systems
in NLP are the "lost mystery" if you will.

NLP tries to separate out the representational systems in order to be able
to influence them; you could say that EmoTrance does that by separating out
the kinaesthetic rep system and works with that, not with words, voices or
pictures.

Now when you do healing of any kind, you very very RARELY deal with "being
in the body in the now".

Indeed, you achieve that (ever!) and that's a star state.

In all the healing modalities, mind, body spirit alike, you get a person
talking about their problem which may or may not be manifest in the now AT
ALL.

For example, a person talks of their spider phobia, but there's no spider in
the room so NOW there should be absolutely no negative feedback and they
should be really happy and content, IF they were in the now.

But as I said, people very, very rarely land in the now.

The spider phobic will talk to the therapist about a memory or a time when
they were terrified by spiders.

Thus the consciousness (the bit of us that notices things and then thinks
about them) TRAVELS TO A TIME when there WAS a spider, and BOOM! we get all
the symptoms, mind, body and spirit, as if there was one.

Even when treating cancer patients, you very, very rarely get to them when
they are in real pain NOW unless you are a nurse working in the wards.

This business with treating things that actually aren't here NOW is
all-encompassing.

EmoTrance is no different.

But instead of making pictures of spiders, or "remembering a time when there
were no spiders" or "remembering a time before you became afraid of spiders"
(a nice and very interesting typical NLP movement!), EmoTrance asks, "Where
do you feel that fear of spiders in your body?"

THAT feeling is ONLY here NOW because we asked about it. If we were to
direct the attention of the person towards a pretty tulip, or a time when
they felt loved by their mother, or anyTIME of their entire incarnation, we
would get different mind/body/energybody states that CORRESPOND to that time
and place.

If you have done any EFT you will know that the problem has to be present in
order to be cured.

That's perfectly sensible; you can't catch a mouse in your attic by putting
a trap into your garage.

In all healing forms, and especially energy healing and mind healing, the
consciousness travels to the time when the problem was THERE so that you can
do something with it.

NLP has many different ways of "doing something with it". There are all very
interesting and educational and perfectly relevant.

EFT has one thing, one way of "doing something with it", and EmoTrance has
its own way of "doing something with it".

So does all therapy, healing, even chemistry and flower therapy - they all
try to do something with it.

There is no conflict, really.

I would posit that NLP has the problem, that it doesn't have the energy
system in its pre-suppositions. It has a lot of tools for INVESTIGATION but
it doesn't give an answer or a map of its own. The various techniques you
learned are relevant and interesting, and if you think in terms of "raising
energy" by accessing states that are positive, and uplifting, that's a
perfectly good way to go about "doing something about the problem".

It might not actually solve or heal the underlying problem, but then you can
debate whether a spider phobic who has learned to access a powerfully
positive state INSTEAD of entering a fear/terror state, and thus shows no
symptoms of being afraid of spiders, ever, needs to be healed any further.
You "did something about it" - the problem and the experience of the problem
is changed.

I would say, however, that often EmoTrance is far more direct - whereever
the consciousness might travel and whatever the problem may be, and whenever
it may manifest - and easy to do, learn, understand and teach.

If you were to COMBINE EmoTrance and NLP however, you'd end up with a
supercharged form of NLP that is quite ... hm, stimulating, I should say :-)

If you (or anyone else interested in NLP & EmoTrance) were to get hold of a
video of Virginia Satir at work, you would see many amazing things, and
probably go a long way to understanding where EmoTrance lives in
relationship to the other components of NLP.

And if all else fails you can always ask yourself - where do I feel this
"thorougly confused" in my body?

Show me with your hands ...

... which is just SOOOO much quicker ...

LOL

Silvia Hartmann

           
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