At 08:33 PM 5/28/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>I would just like to point out that while yes, I have plenty of resentment
>about what happened to me, my point was that I felt your post to be
>insensitive in its phrasing. How did everyone else feel about it?
Thank you for finally being clear from your perspective. Insensitive to you
can simply be commentary from another's view. Insensitivity is something
you brought to the table-(notice who had the feeling that's the person who
brung the feeling). I don't believe everyone has the same definition of
insensitive (at least that is my mind-read) as you because as you point out
later in your post we each feel differently.
A better question is if anyone else felt less than useful feelings such
as insensitivity did you use ET/EFT or any of the other tools available to
deal with the feeling? How did you change it, get out of it, remove it?
>In pointing out that not all of us feel the same way you do, I was in no way
>implying that any 'mind reading' activity had taken place. Obviously not all
>of us feel the same way that you do, because we are not you. We will each
>feel differently.
No one is even arguing that everyone feels the same way as I do, except
you. When you use words like "not all of us" (x2) and "we" are not you;
sorry to point this out but that is called mind-reading. How can you
possible know what everyone else feels or thinks. I agree there MAY be
some, maybe even many who feel as you do BUT your reality is not everyone's
reality and for you to claim that your reality is more valid, supported by
imaginary numbers "us and we" is - mind-reading.
In your truth "you" not "we" are not me. I can work with that truth. In
fact I wrote from that perspective originally.
>I do not feel that the fact of possessing such wonderful tools as ET/EFT
>gives us any right to 'stomp all over' our own or other's feelings. Frankly
>this is more a matter of common courtesy than anything else.
Are you implying that I stomped all over my own feelings by telling my
story the way I did?
Common courtesy, what a scapegoat for not being honest, real and
open. When you teach a child to have common courtesy you are teaching them
to lie about what's going on inside them and then you tell them to be
honest. No wonder people have such tough times when the grow up.
I openly, honestly and with real trepidation opened myself up totally to a
group of what one person called (...a bunch of "I was abused sit around and
feel sorry for self group whiners" people who don't even use the
technologies they have to help themselves get out of their own traps). I
shared honestly and openly from my heart in the hope that some people might
actually do the damn drills and get the skills and no longer have problems
with the past.
The past is the past it is over. Someone else abused me at one time, if I
keep putting less than useful emotions into it from then on I'm the one
doing the abusing, not them.
If we actually used the tools to remove the less than useful feelings we
could really get on to use these technologies for some great stuff.
Instead I'm called insensitive and lacking common courtesy. Both of which
are excuses to not do the drills, not use the tools and simply STAY WHERE
YOU ARE.
>Yes it's wonderful that if something 'makes me sensitive' I have tools to
>clear it up. But that is not the cue for us to all engage in an orgy of
>'button pushing' accompanied with a hearty 'oh, it's only energy, what's
>wrong with you?'
You're right, I told my story and you had no right (or cue from me) to
engage in the orgy of button pushing on yourself that you did. And maybe
you should ask yourself what's wrong with me for not using the tools or
doing the drills. The 1st Forgotten Fundamental of Life (which seems like a
secret) is that "YOU ARE THE MEANING MAKER". If something makes me
sensitive that something is ME.
>I believe this ties in rather neatly with Silvia's previous point about
>healers and whether or not they/we choose to be perfect, and it looks as if
>perfectly healed is part of that. Some of us don't, it's true.
If you choose to not be perfectly healed then keep your pain to yourself
and your projection. There is no need for you to share it unless you want
someone to validate you staying where you are. (If that's what you want be
honest enough to state that.) I thought this group was about finding what
works and using it. I hope it isn't what the person said above it is. And
it is ok for you to choose not to be perfectly healed.
But if you choose that don't think that if someone else, even me, chooses
perfect healing to be making a value judgement about you. I'm not I'm only
making a value judgement about me. And you make value judgements about you
by your choices.
If you are not comfortable with them get out of your head and emotions and
do the damn drills and you'll realize I was talking about myself not YOU.
Being and Becoming-aren't you,
Houston
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