Living Creatively At The Muppet Level

I would just like to point out that while yes, I have plenty of resentment
about what happened to me, my point was that I felt your post to be
insensitive in its phrasing. How did everyone else feel about it?
In pointing out that not all of us feel the same way you do, I was in no way
implying that any 'mind reading' activity had taken place. Obviously not all
of us feel the same way that you do, because we are not you. We will each
feel differently.
I do not feel that the fact of possessing such wonderful tools as ET/EFT
gives us any right to 'stomp all over' our own or other's feelings. Frankly
this is more a matter of common courtesy than anything else.
Yes it's wonderful that if something 'makes me sensitive' I have tools to
clear it up. But that is not the cue for us to all engage in an orgy of
'button pushing' accompanied with a hearty 'oh, it's only energy, what's
wrong with you?'

I believe this ties in rather neatly with Silvia's previous point about
healers and whether or not they/we choose to be perfect, and it looks as if
perfectly healed is part of that. Some of us don't, it's true.

>At 11:10 AM 5/28/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> >Thank you, Silvia.
> >Frankly, I resent the implication that anyone here is engaging in some
>kind
> >of suffering contest.
>
>Hey Alex, lighten up I was confused about Silvia's choice of words. If you
>have resentment sounds like something that could be Et'd.
>
> >So you managed to see your abuse as a situation which had some positive
> >results. Well bully for you. Really that's great. But the same doen't go
>for
> >all of us.
>
>I was telling MY personal experience. That's why I repeatedly said my map,
>experience... I was not speaking for the group. To do that I would have to
>mind-read as you have everyone in the group. I now see in truth that my
>experience doesn't go for you. Fair enough
>
> >For Christ's sake, no my abuse from my cousin has not imroved my ability
>to
> >have functional relationships, taught me about the joy and beauty of sex
>or
> >anything else. It hurt and it still hurts and that's it. And I'm so sorry
>if
> >my lack of joyous bloody acceptance about the whole thing offends anyone.
> >Great if you can learn from this but don't even try to imply that the
>rest
> >of us are inadequate because we can't/don't/won't.
>
>Jimminie Christmas where in bloody hell did YOU (not we) get the thought of
>offending someone and the implied belief of inadequacy? It seems that MY
>story and the way I tell it pushes some buttons and that is great (neither
>good/bad) because if something upsets me or pushes my buttons I have found
>another area I can clear up quickly. With all the tools available today
>such as ET/EFT/Thought Flow/Energy Medicine and such we can get rid of any
>buttons that anyone can push.
>
>Alex, you list what the abuse has not done, what about what positive useful
>information you have learned from your less than useful
>experience? Everything has multiple perspectives. What could some of them
>be for you?
>
>I can understand it hurting at the time and I may be able to understand it
>hurting recently and yet with tools like ET/EFT and all the free evidence
>of removing the hurt and such qualified people you can turn too in your own
>location. (people such as Silvia and others) if it still hurts who would be
>responsible for that. (This is NOT about blame or accusation, it's about
>what actually is)
>
> >Perhaps some of us could be a little more sensitive in dealing with this
> >kind of topic.
>
>Alex, by the some of us I will mind-read you mean me, is that ok with you?
>If anything makes you or I sensitive emotionally isn't it great we have
>some fantastic tools to play with so that we are no longer sensitive on
>this kind of subject?
>
>
>See Silvia, here is what one man gets when he shares his story. And you
>wonder why more men don't want to talk about what happened in the past with
>them or their less than useful experiences. Because we don't use the
>"right" words, say things the "right" way we get accused of such things as
>offending others, being more adequate than others and then being
>insensitive.
>
>I simply shared my story from your request.
>
>I agree with you about people confusing experiences with labels and the
>resulting less than usefulness of it, that's the beauty of EFT it moves
>from labels back to experiences and corrects from their.
>
>
>
> > >From: "StarFields" <starfields_at_w5iKXeGFhlDozvjNSn8XY822c8iwRzRhJJrkw0aDg3LFva08kz9adNfZxd3zOx_4qepGB1xPJ7rLdyrtgw1j0cX8.yahoo.invalid>
> > >Reply-To: emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com
> > >To: <emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: RE: [ET2] Living Creatively At The Genius Level? (was Teacher
> > >Trauma)
> > >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 08:58:58 +0100
> > >
> > >
> > > > On one hand (damage email) you ask for the suffering
> > > > competition to stop
> > > > and on the other hand (you have five more fingers) you
> > > > encourage the
> > > > competition and ask others to share publicly their suffering.
> > >
> > >
> > >I'm sorry I don't see how encouraging people to feel free to talk
> > >about their experiences if they want to is encouraging a
> > >competition.
> > >
> > >Indeed, the very reason I wrote the "damage" mail was to make it
> > >clear that if someone wants to discuss something, it *doesn't*
> > >have to be major trauma, it could be anything that they found
> > >interesting, or that they are still stuck with, wondering about.
> > >
> > >It is actually one of the sad things that people discount their
> > >own experiences of suffering on the grounds that they shouldn't
> > >have felt like that. After all, it was ONLY <...> and NOT <war,
> > >rape, trauma>. If it had been, then perhaps I might have had a
> > >right to feel like this but as it is, I don't.
> > >
> > >Not useful.
> > >
>Being and Becoming-aren't you,
>Houston
>
> ++ Why is this happening to me again? ++
>Kay Carliyn, The Woodlands, TX: Now I understand when Houston tells us,
>"It's all spiritual, except when it's not. The 1st Fundamental makes this
>true. I agree with Dr. Vetter, you don't have to give up what you believe,
>this just makes what you believe work so much better. I now have peace of
>mind, so naturally my thinking is clear, which makes my relationships work
>much better through improved communication." http://www.secretsuccess.com
>
>
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Received on Wed May 28 2003 - 13:33:31 BST