At 11:10 AM 5/28/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Thank you, Silvia.
>Frankly, I resent the implication that anyone here is engaging in some kind
>of suffering contest.
Hey Alex, lighten up I was confused about Silvia's choice of words. If you
have resentment sounds like something that could be Et'd.
>So you managed to see your abuse as a situation which had some positive
>results. Well bully for you. Really that's great. But the same doen't go for
>all of us.
I was telling MY personal experience. That's why I repeatedly said my map,
experience... I was not speaking for the group. To do that I would have to
mind-read as you have everyone in the group. I now see in truth that my
experience doesn't go for you. Fair enough
>For Christ's sake, no my abuse from my cousin has not imroved my ability to
>have functional relationships, taught me about the joy and beauty of sex or
>anything else. It hurt and it still hurts and that's it. And I'm so sorry if
>my lack of joyous bloody acceptance about the whole thing offends anyone.
>Great if you can learn from this but don't even try to imply that the rest
>of us are inadequate because we can't/don't/won't.
Jimminie Christmas where in bloody hell did YOU (not we) get the thought of
offending someone and the implied belief of inadequacy? It seems that MY
story and the way I tell it pushes some buttons and that is great (neither
good/bad) because if something upsets me or pushes my buttons I have found
another area I can clear up quickly. With all the tools available today
such as ET/EFT/Thought Flow/Energy Medicine and such we can get rid of any
buttons that anyone can push.
Alex, you list what the abuse has not done, what about what positive useful
information you have learned from your less than useful
experience? Everything has multiple perspectives. What could some of them
be for you?
I can understand it hurting at the time and I may be able to understand it
hurting recently and yet with tools like ET/EFT and all the free evidence
of removing the hurt and such qualified people you can turn too in your own
location. (people such as Silvia and others) if it still hurts who would be
responsible for that. (This is NOT about blame or accusation, it's about
what actually is)
>Perhaps some of us could be a little more sensitive in dealing with this
>kind of topic.
Alex, by the some of us I will mind-read you mean me, is that ok with you?
If anything makes you or I sensitive emotionally isn't it great we have
some fantastic tools to play with so that we are no longer sensitive on
this kind of subject?
See Silvia, here is what one man gets when he shares his story. And you
wonder why more men don't want to talk about what happened in the past with
them or their less than useful experiences. Because we don't use the
"right" words, say things the "right" way we get accused of such things as
offending others, being more adequate than others and then being insensitive.
I simply shared my story from your request.
I agree with you about people confusing experiences with labels and the
resulting less than usefulness of it, that's the beauty of EFT it moves
from labels back to experiences and corrects from their.
> >From: "StarFields" <starfields_at_USgVH93OQMFuC4NBdcA0NEkot1RBOrZ_mz-gIG84GiGRyZu66juR0QEAQmX8cjL1plfPoFVDH30-KBiWts0Qu9-dSA.yahoo.invalid>
> >Reply-To: emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com
> >To: <emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: RE: [ET2] Living Creatively At The Genius Level? (was Teacher
> >Trauma)
> >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 08:58:58 +0100
> >
> >
> > > On one hand (damage email) you ask for the suffering
> > > competition to stop
> > > and on the other hand (you have five more fingers) you
> > > encourage the
> > > competition and ask others to share publicly their suffering.
> >
> >
> >I'm sorry I don't see how encouraging people to feel free to talk
> >about their experiences if they want to is encouraging a
> >competition.
> >
> >Indeed, the very reason I wrote the "damage" mail was to make it
> >clear that if someone wants to discuss something, it *doesn't*
> >have to be major trauma, it could be anything that they found
> >interesting, or that they are still stuck with, wondering about.
> >
> >It is actually one of the sad things that people discount their
> >own experiences of suffering on the grounds that they shouldn't
> >have felt like that. After all, it was ONLY <...> and NOT <war,
> >rape, trauma>. If it had been, then perhaps I might have had a
> >right to feel like this but as it is, I don't.
> >
> >Not useful.
> >
Being and Becoming-aren't you,
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