Re: ET on removing blockages on using pendulum

From: Willem Lammers <willem.lammers_at_CP4n5d500NsjFyxRfNmSKzik60KMlfCpOwilj2gXTJ2lQI81RvyLiaNU2HYBHtkN>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 08:12:13 +0200

Hi Nolan and group,

As far as my experience goes, muscle testing ­or a pendulum, or a random
generator, or an ideomotor response­ doesn't give me useful information if I
can get that information in other ways.

I could not find out if friends were at home before calling them. I tried it
on the lotto and regularly got three or four numbers out of 7 right, which
might be statistically significant but doesn't allow for home delivery of
the jackpot.

I don't know if the pendulum accesses the unconscious mind, divine guidance
or even evil spirits, maybe all three, whoever shows up at the other end of
the line. It may also depend on whom I decide to access.

There might be such a thing as a direct connection to "Truth", whatever that
may be, but there are so many things that can clog that pipe: wanting to
prove yourself, greediness to show off, mixing up ego with self, humility,
disbelief, distraction, unclarity in in the goals.

In a universe where true answers are given, your question might not be
relevant at all.

Ciao,

Willem Lammers

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"emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com", <emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com>, 05.05.2003
02:49 Uhr:

>
> Subject: Re: ET on removing blockages on using pendulum
>
> First of all, Silvia, thank you on your reply. I wasn't sure if a
> will receive any…
>
>> If you are particularly keen on this, I'd go to look at beliefs
>> around the pendulum itself, its usage, your actual abilities in
>> that direction, purely physiological blockages, past experiences,
>> VOC work on your ability to know when it's the pendulum and when
>> you're making it doing something, - boy as I said, the variables
>> are just too complicated and you'd still well might be working at
>> the totally end of the bundle of sticks.
>
> My personal belief is that pendulum is a tool in communicating with
> unconscious. In this case unconscious knows the answer and my
> desire was to receive that answer through that tool. I didn't
> look at that as complicated system of a whole heap of connectors, but
> as a simple tool of communicating. I don't have any experiences
> in
> using pendulum and this was my beginning with playing/experimenting
> with it. I used this example for practice because I want to remove
> any possible interference of conscious mind. For me, pendulum as a
> tool has many similarities like muscle testing which I also see as
> communicating tool with my unconscious. ( please correct me if this
> analogy is incorrect).
> But, also with MT I wasn't receiving correct answers. Not for
> this example, but for real life situations ( for example: I was using
> EFT on some problem, and with MT I was testing if I will have still
> that problem when I will be again in situation which is trigger for
> that problem. I was trying all kind of suggestion on that, even using
> EFT on "Event though I am not receiving correct answers with
> MT…").
>
>> I would suggest a much, much, much simpler experiment with the
>> pendulum. Yes no with a heads/tails coin. Open in view. Then
>> covering the coin and noting the differences in your thoughts and
>> responses to start with.
>
> I didn't understand this clearly so if you can please explain me.
> Did you mean to throw a coin up and when it falls to cover it before I
> can see on which side has felt or something else?
> In case of falling down and covering it before I can see on which
> side,I am getting incorrect answers. But if I first see on which side
> has felt,and after that cover it, then I am receiving correct answer
> because my conscious mind knows the answer.
>
> Any suggestions and opinions are welcomed.
> Nolan

           
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