RE: [ET2] Re: EmoTrance is Psychobabble?

Your welcome Julie. I wish you much success in making this planet a happier place.

Stephen

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Julie de Burgh <julie_at_juliedeburgh.co.uk> wrote:

From: Julie de Burgh <julie_at_juliedeburgh.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [ET2] Re: EmoTrance is Psychobabble?
To: emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 3:21 PM

Hi Stephen

Thanks again for very useful advice. I liked the bit about the subconscious not wanting to know the answer and how to condter that and still get results. I have already ordered the BSFF book and will consider the videos. I will try it with ET when I've got an idea how it works and have used it on myself. At the moment I find the way I use these energy therapies is constantly evolving - I have come a long way from my original training in hypnotherapy, but still find NLP useful, especially the way Robert Smith incorporates it when necessary into Faster EFT.

Regards

Julie

To: emotrance2_at_yahoogro ups.com

From: gloriacoleman953612 000_at_yahoo. com

Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:55:26 -0800

Subject: RE: [ET2] Re: EmoTrance is Psychobabble?

Hi Julie,

Muscle testing (MT) is not needed, though many BSFF practitioners use it. There is a lot of misconceptions about MT. Some people have really weird protocols trying to make it work when is seems to not be working.

90% of the time when MT is not working it is because the subconscious does not want to know the answer. Treat that and MT will work, that simple. No need for colored glasses, bottles of eye of newt or lizard tails.

I rarely use MT, I rely on the patients feedback on the SUDS numbers. 10 being the worst and 0 is no longer a problem. If the patient can't visualize the numbers, Dr. Nims has prepared a fail safe list. You can go down that list item by item and treat. If you treat for something that is not a problem it won't hurt anything. The fail safe so far has always worked for me.

Leigh Skews in Australia is curing patients with dissociative disorders. He cured a patient of mine that was suffering form MPD or DID in only one session. He uses BSFF, but he also is unable to make MT work.

If you are interested in getting the book, I would also recommend the DVD's.. They are of excellent quality. Don and Larry both use MT, but I believe you can be very successful without MT.

I find that Emotrance and BSFF work together synergisticly. They both enhance the effectiveness of each other.

Congratulations on bringing about the shifts. Its so simple and changes lives in minutes!

Sincerely,

Stephen

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Julie de Burgh <julie_at_juliedeburgh. co.uk> wrote:

From: Julie de Burgh <julie_at_juliedeburgh. co.uk>

Subject: RE: [ET2] Re: EmoTrance is Psychobabble?

To: emotrance2_at_yahoogro ups.com

Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 5:54 AM

Hi

Thanks again. I used the WHEE butterfly hug with Tapas' affirmations with one of my recurrent blocks this morning and it worked really well for me. I know because I felt a very definite shift in how I felt. I also used it with a client today (using the 4 step shortened TAT version) and this worked really well for the client. She felt the energy of the emotion peak and just dissipate.

I am still not sure whether to buy the BSFF book and would welcome your info on whether muscle testing is necessary to make it work or not.

Regards, Julie

To: emotrance2_at_yahoogro ups.com

From: gloriacoleman953612 000_at_yahoo. com

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:00:10 -0800

Subject: RE: [ET2] Re: EmoTrance is Psychobabble?

Hi Julie,

Indeed the debate has become a cat herding session.

Using the WHEE butterfly hug tapping along with Tapas' affirmations works beautifully. At the end of the session everything that has been worked on can be bundled together to make sure everybody and everything has been forgiven.

The cross tapping back and forth stimulates both sides of the brain the conscious and unconscious to act on the affirmation. As far as I know nobody has been able to prove this, but I find this explanation is better accepted by skeptical patients.

These methods including TAT all have one thing in common, the intent of the tapping, hand positions, etc. signal the subconscious to act.

And what is Emotrance? Pure intent.

Personally I find that BSFF combined with Emotrance is most effective. BSFF uses no hand positions or tapping at all. ( The videos show tapping, but it is no longer used). A simple cue word is used to signal intent to the subconscious to act and it is fast, simple and thorough.

Sincerely,

Stephen

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Julie de Burgh <julie_at_juliedeburgh . co.uk> wrote:

From: Julie de Burgh <julie_at_juliedeburgh . co.uk>

Subject: RE: [ET2] Re: EmoTrance is Psychobabble?

To: emotrance2_at_yahoogro ups.com

Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 2:05 AM

Hi Stephen

I'm interested in how you combine TAT and WHEE (both of which I have studied with the respective originators) ? The TAT hands position does not seem to combine easily with the WHEE tapping, please could you let me know how you use these together? As you probably know from earlier posts, I use Robert Smith's Faster EFT tapping routine with ET and feel it really speeds the process up.

Would you have any ideas on how these therapies stimulate both hemispheres of the brain to work in a coordinated manner and release trauma? I look on the "energy" model as just a model rather than an actual reality - a bit like dark matter and energy, and in fact the painful feelings can be described as "stuck emotions" with more sceptical clients. There is a huge very interesting debate going on about ET after the article in Times Higher Education about ET being taught in a school which has rather got caught up in this very point instead of focussing on the actual observable positive effects of the technique.

Regards, Julie

To: emotrance2_at_yahoogro ups.com

From: gloriacoleman953612 000_at_yahoo. com

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:48:31 -0800

Subject: Re: [ET2] Re: EmoTrance is Psychobabble?

Hi Julie,

I purposely do not distinguish between EMDR and other "energy" therapies.

Other modalities such as TAT, WHEE, TFT and some others are quite formal and require some practice. To become certified in EMDR last time I checked it requires only a weekend or two workshops and a degree in psychology of some sort.

EMDR is simple and elegant, no rocket science required. Its results are uncontested by everybody that has used it properly.

All these therapies do the same thing and work with the same principle. The tapping, hand positions, the eye movements stimulate both hemispheres of the brain to work in a coordinated manner and thus allow release of traumas major and minor very quickly.

My personal experience with patients is EMDR brings about miracles, EFT works better and is faster. TAT is even better. Combining TAT with WHEE is amazing. Emotrance is in a class of its own, bypassing the conscious mind enableing the client to make large shifts quickly.

As an acupuncturist I clearly cannot buy the explainations of meridians or acupuncture points relasing "energy". This led me to the discovery that all these modalities are nothing but different ways of working with the same underlying principle.

We all may have our favorite therapy, some of us simply work better with one modality over another.

Stephen

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, ju1iedeb <ju1iedeb_at_yahoo. co.uk> wrote:

From: ju1iedeb <ju1iedeb_at_yahoo. .co.uk>

Subject: [ET2] Re: EmoTrance is Psychobabble?

To: emotrance2_at_yahoogro ups.com

Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:25 PM

Hi Stephen

For the sake of accuracy I think you will find that the practitioners of EMDR do not class it as an energy therapy. In fact its full name (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing) hints at the precision and formality of the technique.

Regards, Julie

--- In emotrance2_at_yahoogro ups.com, Gloria Coleman <gloriacoleman95361 2000@...> wrote:

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> For nearly a century, psychology as moved at less than a snails pace. Patients can go through therapy for years and gain important insights into their mental health. However, they continue in therapy with little evident change.

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> My first contact with "energy therapies" was with EMDR and the results I saw were amazing. Patients were overcoming blocks that therapy has been unable to change. These changes comes very quickly, a few sessions can accomplish more than many years of sitting in a psychotherapist' s office.

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> Psychology has been dragging a loaded sleigh through dry rocky river beds for decades and suddenly they see amateurs and children driving by with Humvees. Its may be a threat to their livelihood. They may feel uncomfortable to ask themselves, "Has my many years of education and practice been all in vain?"

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> Being used to dragging the loaded sleigh and seeing very little progress in their professions, EMDR, EFT, TAT, and Emotrance must seem bizarre, woo woo, or something to attack at all costs.

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> Yet nearly 90% of all patients see dramatic results and I fail to encounter a single properly trained practitioner of energy therapies to quit and go back to the old unproductive ways.

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> The critics are the ones that have never tried to use an "energy therapy". What "science" misses, the little children clearly see.

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> Stephen Coleman

> http://new-holistic -medicine. com

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