Tr: [ET2] Tr: LeDoux' dual pathway

From: maalberse <maalberse_at_nospam.emotrance.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:46:19 +0100

<<That, surely, is in so many other words, Anaga's and the Yellow Emperors learning with heart first then processing with the head afterwards as the right road and *only* road to real knowing, being and doing! >>
 
Personally, I'm far from sure about this, and want to be careful with drawing parallels.

When I speculated about "changing the low road", I am actually thinking about a different part of the amygdala being reached, as energetic and neuronal pathways are changed through processes like ET.
 
The time difference between LeDoux' low road and high-road is less than a tenth of a second. Which means that in less than a tenth of a second "head-processing" (i.e. cortical processing) starts...
 
Maarten

 
 
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> apparently this one got lost in cyberspace. So here
> goes again, slightly rewritten:
>
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>
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> Dear Brian, Gabrielle and all.
>
> Here's a very brief summary of LeDoux' "dual pathway"
> model. He speaks about the low road and the high road
> (the one that the cognitive therapists use).
>
> Both pathways start the same:
>
> Information ("energy") -> senses -> sensory thalamus.
>
> >From here the "low" (and fast) road goes directly to
> the amygdala, "allowing information to reach it very
> quickly, but only with minimal processing".
>
> The high road goes first to the cortex (-> more
> differentiated processing) and *then* to the amygdala.
>
> The information of the "high road" can implement or
> correct the information having first reached the
> amygdala. For instance by stopping emotional dynamics
> started already by the "low road".
>
> So along this model the cognitivists aren't quite
> wrong; they just are "too late"; cognitive therapy
> works to *control* emotional processes that already
> have started!
>
> Does ET change the "low" road?
>
> Maarten
>

  That, surely, is in so many other words, Anaga's and the Yellow
  Emperors learning with heart first then processing with the head
  afterwards as the right road and *only* road to real knowing,
  being and doing!

  I would say that ET firstly redirects attention to the real road
  and then helps answer that eternal question of, "But HOW do we DO
  THAT???"

  I got an email from some health group a few days back with 21 ways
  to happiness.

  Each one was along the lines of,

  - Learn to forgive
  - Find peace
  - Let go of the past
  - Open up to the universe ...
  etc etc

  Great. Sure. Cool. And now back to the question of "HOW????????"

  I'm kinda hoping that with ET I've gone *some* way to beginning to
  show a way towards new ways of answering that in a highly
  practical fashion.

  Cause we all know what the 101 ways to enlightenment, joy and
  ecstacy are, already, don't we.

  SF

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