Re: [ET2] Frequency-Issue/ PIP images

Good day to you all,

Thanks a lot for the link to the PIP image study, Sylvia. And
thanks for asking an interesting question, Volker. I have a
biofeedback gadget from HeartMath called the FreezeFramer, which
measures heart rate variability. I have tried it out on myself
using ET, but with inconclusive results so far. There might be more
clear results if there were three people: ET practitioner, client,
and someone to watch the screen. Has anyone tried this out?

Liz

--- In emotrance2_at_yahoogroups.com, SFX <starfields_at_b...> wrote:
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>
>
> voha.bruhn wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > I am a new member here, Volker Harun from germany.
> >
> > I have the following question/issue:
> > Has anybody ever made an EEG during the phase of 'intention'?
> > Do the brainwaves of the intention 'to let it flow' differ from
one session to another or is it always the same?
> > If there is a regular pattern it could be used with mindmachines
for example.
> > So the awareness of having flowing energy could be raised.
> >
> > Maybe there are common frequencies in the brain when healing the
energy-system.
> >
> > Sure, best is to train yourself. To experience the flow by
intention. To feal the healing power of yourself.
> > Though, I know people who like the idea of mindmachines and I
don't won't to give them any placebo.
> >
> > If somebody of You has an EEG and would do the effort of
evaluating those patterns and share it with us - it would be very
much appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Volker Harun
> >
>
> Hi Volker,
>
> some interesting questions there. The sort of questions the
scientific
> community should be asking, but aren't.
>
> What I'd be more interested in than the "intention" phase of
things
> (although that's an interesting strand in its own right) is to do
some
> EEGs and the rest, at that, full body statistic feedbacks, of the
> ENERGISED END STATE.
>
> That's AMAZING.
>
> To program a path to THAT in a mind machine would be SOME fun.
>
> From my personal experience, the entrance state is akin to five
minutes
> into an Ericksonian style hypnosis session, and before you go
unconscious.
>
> That's my pet "balanced sanctuary state", where one is aware of
the
> body, the mind and the unconscious mind (we call that the energy
mind)
> as well as the energy system ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
>
> All the HypnoDreams inductions go to that state. The
HypnoSolutions are
> just slightly different, but any of the HypnoDreams inductions,
> including the free downloads on www.DragonRising.com , can be used
to
> measure that state.
>
> So if anyone has an EEG, and any of the HypnoDreams tracks,
including
> the German ones, that's the state you're looking for as the
entrance
> state to EmoTrance.
>
> As an aside, at both Oxford and Brighton we used the PIP scanner
to make
> images of "before and after" a five minute ET session, and that's
really
> cool. I don't know if it's scientific but it was neat.
>
> One of the people who had it done said they had a blockage in
their head
> before we started, they couldn't see the screen with the results
at
> the time because it was turned away and on the other end of the
room,
> and the blockage was clearly visible on the picture. After the ET
> session, the person said it was gone and the scanner image agreed.
>
> EmoTrance would make a good Energy Therapy form to study, because
it's
> easy and very structural, and the results are so dramatic. People
look
> and feel very different after a session, and that must mean that
it has
> to be measurable.
>
> The neat thing is the energised end state. That would be the
convincer
> in a scientific experiment, because you just do NOT get that AT
ALL with
> "imaginary" or placebo pretend stuff, not even with hypnosis, not
like
> that you don't.
>
> That's such a huge state difference that even the crassest of
scientific
> machinery should be able to pick that up.
>
> Not that I'm bothered. I didn't make ET to gain "scientific
> respectability" but instead, to make a tool for PEOPLE that
actually
> works, that's easy to use and has some positive and beneficial
effects
> on people's lives and outlooks.
>
> Welcome to the list, Volker, and thanks for that suggestion.
Perhaps one
> day someone will take it up and let us know!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Silvia
>
>
> Silvia Hartmann
> http://SilviaHartmann.com
>
>
> PS - The PIP images, if you haven't seen them, are on
>
> http://starfields.org/pip/et-pip.htm
>

           
Received on Thu Jan 12 2006 - 01:53:21 GMT