Re: [ET2] Anger "management" was Shields or just too good to be true?

Hi Silvia and all,

SF <starfields_at_POC2w9pC1PeDsbEkamvpPYtGeRqduLTw_SugcAVebjgTjBDqKrrqRXXx636mETAo6u6saV2pTEJFWNNUyzULlELx.yahoo.invalid> wrote:

Hey Don,

sorry for hijacking that thread earlier with my own concerns.

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Hijack away please. I think this is how we all can learn by applying this to our ownselves and understandings.In the following text i am dwelling more on myself than I normally care to do in public. I present this not as an ego centric sort of thing but moreso as a way for folks here to pick to the bones whats happening and hopefully help themselves in the process also.

In EmoTrance what can be done and what we used to do a lot of at the
beginning is to EVOKE the aspects/states so they WOULD be there for
treatment. That's much the same as the EFT opening statement's purpose -
to tune the person who is NOW sitting calmly and happily in the
therapist's office to THEN and THAT SORT of event that brings up the
responses.

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Because I am so far away from others and practitioners and because I am used to flying by the seat of my pants, I have used the Emotrance patterns as understood and applied my own edge to them with incredible success.I know there is so much more to learn and we are really just starting into all this.It sure will be nice once I can actually experience a practitioner working on this particular problem with me.Who knows by that time I'll probably have uncovered another layer and worked this one out or ?

In the meantime, with the anger, how about having a go "in the field",
i.e. when you're really angry about something?

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Over the years I have been able to "control" anger as it never really was a very surface thing and only in the past few weeks have I realized to what extent I have it so deep inside me.I find it strange how these realities surface after having lived with them a lifetime.In some ways I fight trying to get rid of this anger stuff as its served me well in many ways over the years.In general very few friends and relatives have ever seen me lose it though.When I say "anger" I am not a raving as*hol* type but see now that I have followed a pattern I have long noticed in my father, his twin brother and a few others in the family of using criticism as a form of anger at others.Instead of just letting people be, I tend to be intolerable and criticise which of course is me seeing in others what I most likely dont like in myself.

A couple months ago I regressed a client back through and into another lifetime. Her first life experience was as a man standing at a well ready to do himself in because of the way he had treated others in that lifetime.His intolerance and meaness were so applicable to this persons present lifetime and when she came back to realtime it was as if she was a new person.I am amazed at that time this whole inner anger/intolerable battle I also have, wasn't of much concern to me at that time of reality. It took another person just to say " Your so intolerant' to make me realize this was a real core issue.

You could put on a TV channel or a show that really, but REALLY, gets
your goat and just sit there and track your kinaesthetics, your
feelings, where they start, how the thoughts you have are corresponding,
and just learn more about "how you do anger".

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All I would need to see is some animal rights type show or other such slanted drivel and the ol boiling point is easily found!nNrmally I am really at peace and this is a more subtle sort of thing, not rampant type anger.

When you get to be INSIDE the state, i.e. the state is all there is, it
can often feel as though there was nothing going on at all, it's all
normal (that would be like a serial killer whistling happily as they
dismember their 11th victim in the basement with a chainsaw!).

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And as always you have hit the nail on the head! This is what I am trying to ask in the first post! Am I inside a sort of shielded state where I just dont feel what I should be feeling? If I didnt have this "sorta" angry issue I cant really access much else and this just doesn't feel that right to me? Now, I could be just feeling guilty I guess, but want to make sure?:-)

With clients, you ask them were they feel it in their body, and right
inside the state, they might say, "It's everwhere!" or the converse
which is the same thing, "There isn't anything!"

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Thats the state I suspect I am in? Normally I can recognize a shield instantly but in this case I dont sense one.

But even then there was a part of me awake and aware and took control of
it all; I didn't stop screaming but chose to continue in a screaming
pitch after that happened with, "Your customer services suck! Now here's
an upset customer who could be placated so easily - but you're not doing
it! Didn't they tell you how to handle tired and distraught guests at
manager school?!"

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Ah yes so you tend to be intolerant of stupid, non critical thinkers also? Ah you see how I am, already judging others with intolerance etc.I live in a third world country ( Indonesia) where critical thinking hasnt hardly ever been practiced.On a daily, hourly, minute by minute schedule I am exposed to this and at most times it's just incredibly funny to experience but there are times that it can be really costly due to really stupid mistakes made by employees etc.My lip has been bitten so many times I lost track of where it is on my face by now! After awhile you just shrug and laugh it off or do the task yourself.

EmoTrance is a very interesting personal development device.

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You can say that again I dont know where I would be without it and EFT!

Don

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