RE: [ET2] maybe off topic

> Hello all!
>
> We chatted a bit about Bandler the other day and I
> wondered if you
> ever modelled his way of teaching... what he calls unconscious
> installation. Have you done that?
>
> Everytime I see him, he gets such on impact on his
> students that I
> never see with other trainers, except one or two and
> not to the level
> of Bandler...
>
> How does he do that? has been my question for the past
> 4 years...
>
> Any insights
>
> Thanks!
>
> Magickman

When I first read the topic heading I thought, oh but nothing
could possibly off topic.

Now that I read the mail, I agree - it is not off topic as such
but a little time displaced indeed.

Bandler uses very advanced energy manipulation which he does not
teach at all and I know why he doesn't. He has good reasons for
what he does and from his standpoint, this makes perfect sense.

I am a very different person and have different things going on,
and some advantages that RB did not have, and which indeed include
having him for a teacher.

So I do things differently.

I hold what he does to be not only an unconditional birth right of
any human being (including women ;-) but also that what he does is
only a very rudimentary version of something else that is much
simpler and has different reasons, outcomes and purposes.

>From this different outcome frame, I have tracked back into what
needs to be done to have it be so, which led me to ET.

For now, EmoTrance is a good interim measure and a teaching device
for all concerned; for me it is a very excellent experiment to
test some basic presuppositions.

Hm weird.

I said this to someone the other day - namely that the main
difference in my approach to human actualisation is that I am not
willing to accept *any* kind of short cut but that it is essential
to get things *right*.

Build things properly from the ground up, take the time if
necessary, not hurry, not overlook niggling little inaccuracies
because although they may be small right now, when you accellerate
your starship to Warp 9 and beyond, those little niggles will blow
it apart, it is as simple as that.

It is possible that I am over careful and am slowing things down
too much, far more than might turn out to have been necessary in
the end but I'm satisfied with this approach for now.

So to sum up. The kind of communication forms that RB uses in
training are a prototype of what we can all expect to be doing
within the very near future. But when *we* do them, there will be
significant differences in how they feel and what effect they have
both ways, also in what formats they will be occurring.

Most significantly, consciousness will be far more involved and
that, either end, is the most significant advantage of the
Hartmann engine over the Bandler engine, if you want to think in
such terms which I generally try to avoid as this is not a
competition nor a hierarchy - important to keep in my mind,
construct or otherwise, so that I don't inadvertently chuck any of
RBs babies out with my bathwater.

Does that answer your question?

SF

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Received on Sun Jun 08 2003 - 15:11:38 BST