RE: [ET2] Game Rules On ET2 (and PS)

From: docresults <Dr.Houston_at_d5MOtJOi0aesm6G0fybQ6GJsVy3sykHJt-QgCymok80CMl7ltns7WstqlC2qThjzgX2z>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:52:06 -0500

>
> > (A note here: All communication of any kind, to some
> > degree, is an attempt
> > to convince, persuade, sell or get someone (could be
> > yourself) to agree,
> > acknowledge or validate your position or your
> > communication.)
>
>It would make an EFT statement, that. A long one, but a good one.
>
>Two very important aspects that readily spring to mind which are
>essential to me about communication and missing from the list is
>reflection and triangulation. Or indeed, learning. How about
>healing? Restoration? Re-energising? Delight? Challenge? All of
>these would be higher on my personal list than any of the ones you
>mentioned.

Words and their meanings are always personal. Let's see if I can show where
my energy is behind all this.
Adding the words you brought to the table I would also add -teaching to
learning = learning-teaching. Why you ask? Good question let me see if I
can explain my POV.

(sidetrack)
Note: It's interesting that you rank words (there by experiences also) as
higher/lower, which in my mind brings to mind better/worst, good/bad
etc..., which doesn't feel good in my energy system. In my world (just
another way) all words and experiences have the same level of equalness,
one word/experience is not higher/better than another they all have
something I can learn, be taught or remember, use of equal value. They are
all tools and resources I can draw upon.

(Note on note: Thought-since we have had the discussion on this list about
enlightenment, what would be the characteristics and beliefs of the
enlightened?)

(back on track)
First my second forgotten fundamental is that Everything is process
(moving). In ET I believe the statement is the natural state is "Flow".

The end results of all the words I use and the words you use, whether they
are higher or not, is persuasion. Triangulation includes calibrating but it
still ends in Persuasion. Persuasion involves moving from one point to
another (flowing/processing), with a change of view (perception). An
attempt to learn-teach (persuasion) does involve buying and selling
(persuasion) even if it is with oneself.

 From my map when I ask someone where do they feel that in their body and
can they put their hand on it and if they soften it what direction/where
does the energy want to go, I think I'm
selling/persuading/convincing/healing/restoring/re-energising/delighting/challenging/exploring
all of these are involved. In My POV words are simply hooks to attach
energy experiences upon.

Fortunately, I have their kinesthetic system to help
persuade/convince/buy/give proof of what I'm selling. If somehow the
kinesthetic system doesn't give them feedback I don't sell or using your
metaphor they don't learn. Still it's two sides of the same coin.

It can/may also mean that people attach different meaning to words.
Selling-bad, learning-good, when in actuality (energy metaphor) it's the
same channel with the energy going either faster or slower or at different
angles through the channel.

>I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not buying or selling here
>but attempting to learn. Firstly and foremostly.
>
>
>Not really. This list of game rules is my statement of what I want
>to do here.

Exactly, by your statement of what you do here and what you want you are
stating what you don't do and don't want. It is a statement of fact that
others must buy into/agree to (same thing) or they don't get to play. And
when we exclude anything, whether we chose to call it that or not, we are
persuading (exchanging energy) which we cannot-not do. Humans cannot, not
communicate. (all the words combined from above.)

> It is up to you entirely if you want to play this game
>or not. If the rules are not stated up front, you cannot choose to
>play by them.

Exactly the act of choosing implies the buying/accepting/believing/agreeing
to (persuading of oneself) that one thing is more valuable than something
else (this energy process is also called buying or selling).

>If you - or anyone else - chooses not to play by those rules, then
>I can remove them from the game as the moderator of this list. So
>that the chosen game may continue.

Again, from my POV (neither right/wrong) that is buying-selling or
learning-teaching or convincing-exploring or reflecting-tringulating.

You have bought your own definition of what buying-selling means and if
someone does not agree (buy in) you can learn them a lesson.

Your are right you can remove anyone from the game. After all the creator
can and does define (sell herself) her own rules.

For me my down and dirty definitions are buying is learning and selling is
teaching, it's kind of like you can't have yin without yang. That's why I
connect the two learn-teach, buy-sell, yin-yang.

I'm curious and it's ok that you do, I'm just wondering how (not why) do
you put such heaviness (negativity) on buying and selling?

Need Nothing, Desire Everything, Choose What Shows Up,
Enjoy Life-It's ALL Information, Utilize It ALL,
Doc Houston

Remember what my Grampa Vetter said, "I started out with nothing and have
most of it left."

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