Men, Women, Muppets, People ....

From: StarFields <starfields_at_-YvOssphR4e-cZn9ouZGuWUqZY3dgFEGz6qxqbW7xqQjRg57jnCi7FGUrUcna51etm0Z>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 23:52:22 +0100

> So, when Doc blasts in and holds up for inspection my
> alignment with the sisterhood I am prepared to take it
> as a response from the universe in my quest to change
> my experience of loving. I think it's possible that I
> have some feelings that female emotional suffering is
> somehow different in a competiton way than it is for
> the male. I was not consciously aware of this, you
> understand, but it certainly could be so. My husband
> has always asserted that the females in my family are
> well into man-hating as indicated by our attitude and
> the jokes against men that we enjoy. He could be right.
> I think he's right about my mother and my sister and
> there were only 3 females in our family - so t'other
> one is me!!! Would I have escaped from such subtle
> programming? Not likely really.

Hi Linda,

the next part is a backchannel I wrote to Houston on the topic.

It might shed some light on this.

cheers,

SF

Don't think that I don't understand your gut reaction to Linda's
gut reaction - of course I can't know exactly what it is like but
I'm man enough to have a line into this whole male fortress of
solitude disaster AND to have wrestled with it myself most
massively over the years.

Indeed, the solution I eventually found was reliant on no longer
thinking of myself in terms of either a man, or a woman, at all.

I now believe it is structurally impossible to solve this (and a
great many other things beside) from any other place. You could go
further and say that it is impossible to attain enlightenment or
true human actualisation as *either* a man, or a woman.

Here's why.

We are in the reality of a situation where by virtue of constant
and continuous societal entrainment men and women work, act,
think, feel, interact and behave - like men and women, which just
so happens to be less than 50% of what a human can get up to and
indeed, NEEDS to be able to have at their disposal in order to
function efficiently and successfully.

This is the deal. What has happened - god knows who did it in the
first place, perhaps its just an evolutionary accident - is that
in splitting up the human race into men constructs and women
constructs, then parcelling out certain "qualities" to one or the
other, neither gets to play with a full deck of cards.

Both have half a deck each and are encouraged to believe its the
better half (or indeed, the full story which is worse by far!);
AND to compound it, then they have to engage in a battle to prove
their respective halves of the deck are the superior one. Which is
both everlasting and of course, un-winnable for either side plus
serves to tie them all up by fighting the wrong enemy for the
wrong reasons at infinitum.

This set up also creates untenable conditions of difficulties for
both parties - because in order to lead any kind of satisfactory
human existence, of course you NEED both sets of qualities to make
the whole.

Do you know and would you believe - I have true evidence for
this! - that women have no understanding or concept of, for
example, valour, honour and power? Most have only the most
rudimentary ideas of what "triumph" could mean, but believe it
isn't important because it doesn't pertain to them, might even say
that to want this thing denotes a character flaw in a "real
woman".

I'm not kidding about this, it's true. The "triumph" of a woman
athlete is totally unlike that of a male athlete and there's a
heap of ideas, states of being, concepts describing experiences
and most importantly, *energies* which are entirely out of reach
to women because of this - and, indeed, vice versa.

And the craziest thing of them all is that they are perfectly
capable of *experiencing* these states structurally. This divide
is NOT natural but entirely constructural in origin.

Whenever I've made comments about men this, women that in the past
all that happens is that people freak out and fall right back into
the old fight patterns. Men feeling threatened by feminists, women
being misunderstood and the same old shit starts to fly again.

We shall see.

After all, we're supposed to be in the top percentile of people
striving for true human actualisation - LOL.

If we can't get a hold of our own shadows and start a bit of
jumping across them, what hope is there for anyone else?

Personally, I have faith.

SF

           
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