Re: [ET2] Damage

This is a response that I wrote to Silvia privately and in her response she
asked why I didn't send it to the group for she felt there were some good
points in here. So I am posting this to the group in hopes that she will
send her response which is extremely spot on, with the belief frame I have
chosen to operate from.

At 02:59 PM 5/27/2003 +0100, docresults wrote:

> Your love to all seems to discount the men when you
> attach especially the
> sisterhood in... As if men don't experience the same
> experiences.

I'm sure Linda doesn't need me to calmly state on her behalf that
of course no distinction between human energy systems was intended
on any level.

And of course Silvia I calmly state that obviously you did not model her
energy field before your nice rebuke to me. I did and it energy tested out
that she did make a distinction on at least two levels. That is the reason
I wrote it is a Human Experience. If there was no distinction why the word
- especially (a word that makes a specific distinction)

If she or people (Added) don't intend to make distinctions why did we?

That's like me saying, Love to all... especially the brotherhood in our
wandering through women saying we can't do anything right.

Although one might try for enlightenment, I should think there is
all the merit there can be in holding firmly in reality that we're
all still at least 85% muppet and only 15% human as a work in
progress.

And your point is?
IF one is trying for enlightenment there is no merit in anything. It's a
change of perspective and you seem to be saying don't change this one
particular perspective. What then is the value of enlightenment or even
trying for it?

And, of course, resultingly, GIVE OURSELVES A BREAK and have some
patience with each other.

I'm curious:
Are you saying that allowing someone to maintain their illusion (head
reality, not actuality) is giving ourselves a break or showing patience? or
Are you saying pointing out map clashes, especially ones that aren't
perceived, is less than useful and being patience and giving ourselves a
break is to ignore blocks in someone's energy field? or
Or is it the way I phrased it that caused you to defend?

Including patience with the "men" who may also have such emotions
but as they don't talk about them, might appear to not be striken
to the same extent as the sisterhood.

Statistics example: Public mails on 2 lists from 5 females
expressing similar processes being in action, from males none.

My experience (my map with clients) women talk about emotions and hold on
to them more before releasing them. Men don't talk about emotions, often
suppress them and yet when given tools to handle/release them they use the
tools and still don't talk about them.

In Family counseling sometimes men have to be instructed that many times
women aren't telling you something because they want you to fix it even
though it seems broken. They just want you to listen and not do anything
about it. (Sometimes difficult for men)

Which is exactly why I am so very keen to have the suffering
competitions STOP and focus on practical, simple systemics.

Great idea. That's why I thought you would have been the 1st to point out
it's not female/male but human. But I take your rebuke and am dismayed at
your prespective. As I ET all this it makes me laugh! Thanks for the
experience.

Sisterhood, brotherhood, - muppethood!

This is ET2. On this list we're working on trying to figure out
how to be human.

Thanks for finally pointing it out. My mind-read is that Linda doesn't see
where what she wrote is any different from what you just wrote. And I'm
sure Linda agrees that is why humanhood was included in her Love to all,
but her qualification cut out part of it. Maybe, I'm wrong, energy test it,
go inside and find out for yourself.

You're right it does have to do with a change of "heart" which is the
change of perspective.

Which includes having a laugh about the advertisement for the man
who wants to earn money and the woman who wants to loose weight.

Many of my clients aren't seeking enlightenment or even how to be more
human they just want what they want.

;->

SF

Need Nothing, Desire Everything, Choose What Shows Up,
Enjoy Life-It's ALL Information, Utilize It ALL,
Doc Houston

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Received on Wed May 28 2003 - 08:30:39 BST